Here is the compiled evidence against Nether Beast Underground Muscle Shaman:
I appeal to you, Nether, even if you are too hurt to come back, you at least owe it to people to show you weren't lying, if you care about those who believed in you, if you care about their well-being, since they believed in your advice. Plus, redoing the lifts will establish your credibility, even if you are done with YouTube fitness.
And, yes, it is bad and unfortunate that people have decided to target your family over this, and it is wrong and irrelevant that your family, your wife and children should have to suffer for this, but even if you want to leave the game because of this, which makes sense, you at least publicly posting those lifts redone in the proper manner for all to see will not put you in any more danger. People already are posting copies of your deleted videos online anyway. There's no extra risk, and if anything, it will lower the amount of people hating you, who potentially could want to harm you and your family, because they would then see your lifts are legit.
Now, as for your hurt feelings for being betrayed by your friends, like Phil from Fit World Exposed, I see some validity in this, if they didn't first go to you privately themselves and ask you to your face about this matter before posting public content about it. I don't know if they did first go to you in person privately or not, but if they didn't, I can understand your being upset, and I see that kind of as a treacherous scumbag move. But if they did and you were behaving with them as you did in your last farewell video, then you have no argument. It is then your fault for insulting people's intelligence with mediocre non-responses.
You also need to address the accusations against you that you were kicked out of MMA for testing negative on drug tests due to prohormones and that you have in the past reviewed prohormones, indicating that you have used them before, which does not make you fully natty. Now, you don't seem like the most educated and rational person out there, so maybe, if these claims are true, you didn't know what they were at the time and just thought they were highly effective supplements, like so many others have due to not having done enough research beforehand. If this is so, just explain it to people. Though you will no longer be able to claim full lifetime natty, if you only did it before when you didn't know what it was and then stopped, and you haven't done it for so long, then you can still claim to be mostly natty, which is better than nothing. A lot of people, like Alpha Destiny, still know most of your training and nutrition advice is on point. I do. So I don't think that takes much, if anything, away from your results. I myself have tried steroids and prohormones in the past but the way I did it and the lame results, if any, I got from it, which I certainly lost after I quit consistently training, plus most of my natty gains, any progress I'm getting now and got before I used it, I wouldn't let anyone take that from me in my own mind and just let the past drug use be an excuse for it. I plan to talk about this more in the future. But yeah, even Eric Bugenhagen allegedly admitted to using prohormones in the past, if this is true, according to Alpha Destiny's standards, which seem somewhat inconsistently biased when it comes to Eric Bugenhagen since he still calls him natural, Eric can now never ever claim to be natural again, because steroids forever change your body composition, they increase muscle nuclei , which gives more potential for growth. I, however, find this argument to be weak, especially in my own case, since I didn't get any real noticeable gains that were any greater than I was already getting when I finally started learning how to train (I had not done so for so many years before and due to the explosion of gains when I did, I wanted results even faster for all of the time lost and decided to hop on thinking it would especially help the recovery of my overworked body), stopped the gear for so long, and then also did not really train seriously at all, and when I started to eventually again, I was burnt out and overworked, mostly because computer overuse with highly intellectual endeavors, which I was ignorant on for so long and it deteriorated my body more and more so that I could not gain, and when I did, I also regressed eventually again. So any extra nuclei I got, I could have lost. If you can epigenetically change your body to become more able to build muscle and get stronger, like due to drug use or nucleus overload, you can also do so in reverse, and there are people who have been highly athletic who regressed for years into completely sedentary lifestyles and you would never know just my looking at them about their past athleticism, and sometimes they even look worse than before they started seriously training. I find the argument that past steroid use makes one into a permanent muscle mutant to be fallacious. And even in Eric and hypothetically Nether's cases, they probably consistently trained seriously after they stopped, but no one who goes on keeps all of their gains, especially when they are above one's natural limit (whatever that is; no one objectively knows; maybe somewhere around what the old time greats were at, maybe a little more since we have advanced a lot in time). Look what happened to Big Rammy when he quit gear. And you can theoretically increase the nuclei in your muscles just by doing nucleus overload, purposefully overtraining muscles for a while and then letting them recover. There's enough anecdotal evidence by now for many of us to justly conclude it is real, plus, if I remember correctly, Team 3D Alpha also once shared that there was now scientific data supporting it, but I'm not sure if that's a genuine memory. So I don't think it is justified to use this excuse to take away from the hard work of these men (in Nether's case assuming he only used it for a bit and then quit, not having used a lot for so long and even maybe still being on now). This is what I did as a natural with my whole body for years before I learned how to train. All of the overworking I did, not getting stronger, before I learned how to train properly probably helped me gain quite a bit when I started suddenly training properly for strength and getting stronger quite fast, though the size gains, though there, still were not that impressive.
I woke up one morning and saw all of this drama had happened while I was asleep, so, though we weren't really friends, I did leave a lot of positive comments on your videos, but I have no way of contacting you anyway, as your channel was already closed, so I have no way of privately contacting you that I know of. And I feel I have to make this public post because I did somewhat endorse you.
I followed Nether Beast Underground Muscle Shaman mostly for his health and fitness advice, and somewhat also for his "spiritual" advice to a degree, and I found his personality generally likeable, except for the overly emotional, erratic, and inconsistent behavior he sometimes displayed, like his strange reason for calling out and arguments against Vegan Gains. His philosophy is also highly irrational and inconsistent in so many areas, which I won't point out anything, because it is no different than many other major New Age platforms out there, which anyone can see for themselves and contemplate on what they teach. There are certain things in the Eastern philosophies which do resonate with me and do make a lot of sense to me, though, so I chew the meat and spit out the bones as with anything else a fallible human says. I have been extremely skeptical of much of his spiritual claims, especially his channeling claims which I could point all sorts of issues out with that, but I won't do that here. I also found some parts of his lifts questionable, like his form on rack pulls where he doesn't lock out and sometimes the bar barely even gets off of the rack at all, but I figured maybe he had a reason for what he did, since he indeed is quite strong and big. But mostly I was kind of a fanboy when it came to his lifting. It inspired me and I didn't really think much of anything. I was extremely supportive of those last lifts in his comments. But now seeing the data presented with clear rational explanations, I'm kind of depressed with myself I didn't see it. I should have. But I have been suffering from burnout for a while now, and especially lately I have been avoiding thinking too much and relaxing my brain due to feeling especially mentally burnt out lately, so I guess I wasn't really paying attention. I'm glad that these guys did the work to bring it to my attention. I still have a little benefit of the doubt open-mindedness and would definitely unbiasedly look at his redone lifts with proper camera placement if he did them. But for now, I mostly think he faked the lifts because of the evidence before me. I can't just go off of pure feelings.
And that is the thing, the non-dualistic understanding of a harmonic duality in the nature of the cosmos in traditional Eastern philosophies, which much of New Age is based on, teach a right balance between the yin and the yang. You can't just have warm feelings and emotions but you have to have cold hard reason as well. You cannot only go off of feelings because of the imprecise and difficult to grasp nature of them. You need to make sense, understanding of them through rationality. Likewise, just being a cold rational person and ignoring feelings takes away your humanity and makes you a cold computer programmed robot, which would cause one to do potentially harsh things, like just go only with data against a long time friend that you've loved and known for so long and not giving them any benefit of the doubt in patience. We have our instincts for a reason. It seems Nether in this instance, though in the past he has preached against the all light lovey dovey new agers, is guilty of the same and can't seem to man up and face this with some sense. The effeminate way he is approaching this is not the right balance for a male to have, you can clearly see it, if you are honestly looking at objective facts and not just emotional appeals.
So, with that, that's my take on this. I'll let people make up their own minds. This was a pretty big bummer for me. At first when this caught me off guard, I got pretty upset and wanted to tell all of these people like Dairyland Strength and Phil from Fit World Exposed to fuck off. But I'm glad I was patient and didn't but decided to put those emotions aside and thoroughly look into this with an objective mind and really think this through. I just have to agree until Nether decides to man up and apologize for acting so much like a bitch and proves people wrong.
As to the person(s) running the distastefully humorous channel currently masquerading as Nether's previous now deleted channel, pretending to be Nether without any disclaimer that they are a parody channel but clearly trying to get people to believe it its the real Nether Beast, making him out to have gone way crazier than he is and making him out to be publicly proclaiming that he is suicidal (this channel has caused many to falsely believe this), you are a scumbag(s.) I am in the process of reporting your channel for fraud, cyber bullying, defamation, etc. What Nether pretty much obviously did was wrong (unless he can rationally defend himself without senseless emotional gobbledygook but objective evidence). But what you are doing is very evil too and you should stop. If you continue to do this, I hope you are found by the authorities and punished for your crimes. I encourage everyone else who despises such evil to report this channel and all of its videos as well.
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